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 Trent Erasmus |
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Posts: 103 (08/17/01 12:09 PM) |
Check out this news link at BBC -- the ONLY decent source of news out there, straight from your Mother country.
news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1494000/1494746.stm Hope it still works. This is what things have come to, folks. Trent Erasmus
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Posts: 422 (08/17/01 2:39 PM) Muchacho Man |
Howdy Trent
Honestly, I have no clue what the big fuss with cloning is all about. I think it is a fine venture, provided that it isn't practiced by the wrong people. I mean, I wouldn't want another Santa Anna reliving the Alamo.... poor Davy Crockett.... And I think it would be rather funny to see a bunch of mini-Texas Republic Agents running around. Adios |
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Posts: 103 (08/17/01 3:53 PM) |
Really? I wouldn't find that funny at all.
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Posts: 1628 (08/17/01 8:15 PM) |
The whole thing really is an issue... I could see how many representatives of some world religions would be unhappy with the whole cloning thing, with humans taking on a role that only a certain higher power is supposed to have. As far as creating an army of weird mutant clones... eh... somehow I doubt that anyone would ever come to that. I would think that they are somewhat expensive to make... and then you gotta feed them and take care of them and possibly even teach them elementary human skills... just ain't worth the effort in my book.
But it's not like prohibiting cloning is going to stop anybody who would actually WANT to do something like that. If a person actually had the money and the desire to do it, I'm sure that he/she would find a way, even if cloning were illegal. At least that's what I think. Resident Aural Intercourse Specialist,tenvsvitalogy--NoCode--yieldbinaural
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Posts: 6698 (08/21/01 12:14 PM) SARS Incubator |
While nearly all the Great Religions take a hard-stance towards cloning, I'm especially against it for the sociological issues at stake. Couples in mourning keep talking about their plans to use cloning technology to have their lost son resurrected. I hear stories like this all the time, and it just disturbs me. They always reassure the researchers that they fully understand that this new child would be a separate entity from the old one, but do they really understand this? If so, why're they trying to give this poor kid a "second chance"? Just disturbing.
If there's one thing this new sense of internationalism should bring in, it's a global treaty calling for a strict ban against the duplication of organisms. There should be some small print allowing for cloning on a specifically cellular basis though (only for the purpose of allowing extremely promising stem cell research to continue). I won't presume to guess at what God "meant" to happen, but I always thought that once the mold was used, it was always thrown away. At least, from a broad perspective, that ought to be the case. Never mind that telomere limitations (with present-day tech) on our chromosomes don't allow for the cloning of perfectly healthy duplicates, e.g. Dolly the Sheep's reported health problems and accelerated aging. I'm trying to get at the impact it'll have on society, namely, a lessened emphasis on the sacredness of individuality. We'd have to completely re-sketch the book on human rights. |
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Posts: 1999 (08/28/01 1:49 PM) |
Now it's my turn to share my opinions. Cloning is just sick. A madman's dream if you will. Man wasn't meant to assume the role of God. I can't help but think of the horror movie "Body Snatchers" (or something like that). It frightens me <shudders>.To think that people can duplicate themselves, and see that as "reasonable" is as my friend Will would put it, "insane in the membrane." If one is deluded to think that cloning is the way to immortality, one is sadly mistaken. You live life once, and that was the way God intended it. So let it be then.
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Trent Erasmus |
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Posts: 103 (08/28/01 3:03 PM) |
Bad habit.
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fallan13 |
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Posts: 1 (08/28/01 11:19 PM) |
human cloning is nothing but trouble.....but it's already being done.....outlawed or not people still know how to do it, and i believe that it will be done.
mind you i'm indifferent about cloning for medical purpuses....there's pro's and cons......
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Posts: 428 (08/29/01 11:23 PM) |
Don't we have enough people in this world. Why do we need to clone people too? Doesn't cloning going against the evolutionary need to continue to diversify the gene pool?
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Posts: 1999 (08/30/01 12:06 PM) |
I don't think the population will come to the point that the planet is overflowing (or at least I hope not).
As for the gene pool, yea, I guess it's gonna wreak havoc on it. |
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Posts: 428 (08/30/01 9:55 PM) |
But population is already a problem when resources aren't shared correctly and used wisely. As a side not, I read that citizens of North America and Europe take up a much bigger portion of the earth's resources than most other people. We simply consume more of the Earth in our lifetime.
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Posts: 6698 (10/28/03 8:03 PM) SARS Incubator |
Genetic modification has nothing to do with cloning, except from a superficial standpoint, but I'm posting this here because of its similarity:
 New Zealand appears to be in uproar over the expiration of its GM moratorium. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3220383.stm In the room the women come and go
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Posts: 6698 (10/31/03 3:19 PM) SARS Incubator |
FDA to rule cloned food safe.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3229941.stm In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo. - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, T.S. Eliot |
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Posts: 4512 (11/01/03 1:11 AM) Audio Ambassador |
Well there's something that's exactly the same for cloning and genetic modification, eh? We wouldn't want anyone to do it anytime soon, unless it were something to be eaten, and then the FDA is totally gung ho! Maybe soon they'll be able to clone burgers without cows!
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Posts: 4512 (11/02/03 10:03 PM) Audio Ambassador |
The U.S. wants an international treaty to ban human cloning:
story.news.yahoo.com/news..._cloning_1 So lets see if I understand the Right Wing logic - we shouldn't clone humans because that's playing God, but if we clone cows and potatoes and serve that at McDonald's that's good for Capitalism and perfectly safe. Of course it overlooks that "You are what you eat", but that's not one of the Ten Commandments any way. |
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Nicholas |
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Posts: 6698 (01/04/04 10:52 PM) SARS Incubator |
Another perspective on GM foods:
www.guerrillanews.com/contaminated/ In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo. - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, T.S. Eliot |
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Posts: 4512 (01/21/04 6:33 PM) Audio Ambassador |
O.k., tampering with nature is what brought us Mad Cow Disease, but now scientists are thinking about eradicating it by doing some serious tampering: genetically engineering resistant cows and then cloning them for meat!
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Posts: 4512 (01/23/04 1:26 AM) Audio Ambassador |
The world's first cloned endangered animal to be displayed in a zoo:
story.news.yahoo.com/news..._banteng_4 Hard not to have mixed feelings on that one. |
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